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  Sorrow ...

  by compound complex in

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  i have made repeated attempts to move on with my life since your arrival 23 september but cannot.

  a change of venue, that of diet, even new clothes have afforded me but a frivolous and temporary elevation of spirits.

  accordingly, as i am thus paralyzed by a most profound sense of melancholia, i lie in bed, starring at a black sky, and pine anew for what little contentment life once offered up.

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  WOW!

  I don't have the ability to entirely appreciate your gifted expression ... but ... That's good stuff!

  Maintain!
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  When would an "I'm sorry" help?

  by The Berean in

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  2. beliefs

  human interaction today too often seems to feature either playing the role of "offender" or "offended.

  "most parties involved in an altercation plead "not guilty" regardless of the evidence.. but are there times when a simple unconditional "i'm sorry" might prevent a harmless spark from becoming a raging inferno?.

  i pesonally have offended people hundreds of times during my life and have been offended to the same extent.

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  Human interaction today too often seems to feature either playing the role of "offender" or "offended." Most parties involved in an altercation plead "not guilty" regardless of the evidence.

  But are there times when a simple unconditional "I'm sorry" might prevent a harmless spark from becoming a raging inferno?

  I pesonally have offended people hundreds of times during my life and have been offended to the same extent. I can not recall an instance when another party offered an apology without adding, to the effect, either " you didn't understand" or "I'm imperfect, get over it"!

  It seems that what we need to work on as a society is acepting responsibility for damages done without attempting to deny anything occured. For instance, those who have had negative experiences within the WBTS might have found closure sooner and moved on if those involved had simply stated "I'm sorry if I caused pain" ... period
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  Hi. Just popping in with an observation Id like to share and any feedback Thanx.

  by chrisjoel in

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  2. friends

  i really havent been on here in a while, but recently a coworker, who i respect, told me of an "incident" that happened that i really cant explain..so for the hel lof it ..thought id share :).

  for clarity here some background on my friend/coworker:he is a siek indian, the type that wear a turbin/bushy beard, very sensitive as to being "brown" in an agressive way ie: not the type to take any crap from anyone..., very smart, anyways he is about to get married now, but, 3 yrs ago in his dorm room at the university of windsor in ont canada his roommate left for the evening.

  he takes a shower, then goes to the mirror to shave and says from the corner of his eye he sees a flash of "something" go by him very quckly/ faintly.

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  Somebody's just playing "Hide and go Siek"
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  "We are not hear to change your religion"....why do Witnesses lie?

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. scandals

  the truth = yes we are!!

  ive said this in the past but really why am i at the door...not to sell vaccum cleaners!

  we dont "force" people to change religions.....we just force them to stay in with disfellowshiping......."we don't hate gays".......we are just waiting for them to be burnt to death at armagedon..

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  I have another theory:

  I don't think Witnesses actually DO want to convert everyone. If the masses were JWs, then the scripture that says " broad and spacious is the road leading to destruction" would apply. Witnesses are proad to be on the "narrow road" which they claim leads to life.

  Therefore public rejection is no more than validation for the "faithful." They are at the door to establish superiority over the householder! They are out in the field to earn their right to life, not to change anyone's religion ... they simply are attempting to flaunt the correctness of their cause ...
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  some leave & stay quiet...why do some rant/obsess like me/us?

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently posted "why do we do this?

  ".....good answers btw.......but now.......i so want/need to let go......my wife will not change...and it has been nightmare awful lately.....i will never go back......i have hurt her soooooooo bad for over two years.........why cant i stop?...she is a great woman..........we might could make it if i could just shut up......get bye not just to her but my friends as well....... do i need meds for obsessive thoughts/behavior?..........damm i am obsessed over this cult........why cant i just not be a religious person....just shut up and be non vocal.........i just keep outing myself.......like a deathwish.......i do not really want to lose my family....i have lost most friends already.......but am scared to lose my family too......i know many here have......i just wish i could be a more silent fader....... if we shut up.......we are not really apostate in there eyes......but uh-oh.........if you keep on like me.......you are one.......and since i am even more non-judgemental now........she has a right to her own beliefs...... an old friend of mine just went back to jw.......he is now sober due to this decision...it helps him.....some just need structure.........plus......he has a chick in jw that loves him........and he will get wicked good poontang from her as soon as he marries this goddess.....so that is good too...oompa.

  good luck poontang bound jw friend.......

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  oompa:

  I believe you have posed for me a core issue of my discontent. I am possessed by something. JWs would say it is Satan. While I would agree that this uncontrolable force is demonic ... there may be another theory to examine.

  What if there really exist spiritual forces battling for supremacy in the universe, playing in a ballpark to which flesh and blood are not admitted? What if individuals are but the prey for such a competition?

  How would such a senario play out for the hunted?

  Well, once one comes under the control of Demon A, for instance, there might appear to be relative "peace and security" (I'll bet you've heard that phrase before) This would be because a demon would protect what is their own.

  Now, those earthlings who have decided NOt to turn their life over to ANY unseen force would't be much of a challenge for the demons since they offer no "trophy' opportunity for any spirit "contender." These too would have relative peace.

  BUT ... for those who have committed to a force or are waffling and then attempt to somehow renege on their potential allegiance to that spirit ... WATCH OUT! It can become hell if a superhuman force gets into our head and we later attempt to alienate ourselves from them. It can become like a cat toying with a mouse that is trying to get away.

  I believe many of us are here sharing our pain while attempting to exorcise such demons. I also believe it gets better when a person truly no longer cares about mentally ill spirits somewhere in the universe and tries to do their earthly best. When one takes the fun out of it, for the ghostly hunters, serenity is possible.

  For those who believe the Bible we might cite James 4:7 "oppose the Devil and he will flee from you."

  One final thought ... those who are still enslaved tend to hate any who become free ... count on it.
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  Would everyone who needs sex please raise their hand ...

  by The Berean in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  don't see any ... must be just me!!

  !.

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  Don't see any ... must be just me!!!
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  Of all known religious beliefs which one seems most reasonable?

  by The Berean in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  buddhism would be my choice ....

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  Buddhism would be my choice ...
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  Has it changed? How are they suppose to treat disassociated ones?

  by megaflower in

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  situation: offically da in sept 2008. jw elder and wife lives up the street from me and they give dirty looks, etc.

  i get shunnd everytime i have run .

  into one of them until today.

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  Perhaps ... yet I can not recall a case in a congregation in over fifty years when someone was publically chastised for being humane to a former JW ... it may be one of those "unenforceable" cautions. Also, if that had happened to me, I would go with it. That's what I wanted from the organization all the time.
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  Did You/ Do You Believe Marriages Are Supposed To Be Forever?

  by minimus in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  the majority of people i know who are married either have cheated at least once or have mentioned regret to ever having married.

  as witnesses, we were taught that marriage should be lifelong unless adultery occured and even if it did, many times, eccouragement was given to forgive.. now, i see many couples go thru the motions but almost hate their status.. so, are marriages meant to be "forever" or what?.

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  In the Bible there is mention of such things polygamy, concubines, incest, and Brother-in-law marriage. Eve, in fact, appears to be an afterthought in the creator's mind. If one were to take Matthew 22:29 literally, no one who returns from death in a resurrection will be maried.

  And then, some claim that humans will be taken up to heaven as the "bride of Christ," ending any previous bonds.

  Modern marriage is a legal ceremony established in order to identify ownership and responsibility of people and possessions.

  In my view, since marriage is terminated by scriptural decree, divorce, or death, marriage was designed as a temporary phase used for the purpose of filling the earth as well as to fend off loneliness. I strongly suspect that no one will remain married "forever."
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  Why am "I" here, you ask ?

  by Sad Michael in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think i need to find out more about you so i can bring us closer.

  why are you here?.

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  I am here because I am looking for a place in life to fit in ...